The Zeitoun Massacre ... Committee of the Red Cross that made its way down war-damaged tracks past demolished houses to the town of Zeitoun. Kathy Zeitoun. [8], Some authors suggest that the sightings must be considered in context. Motive – The apparitions guaranteed the continued existence and popularity of their church for the life of the Orthodox Church itself. [citation needed] Two other men also noticed a white figure on the top of the church[1] and the sighting was reported to the police. "Zeitoun" is an inspiring, tragic and powerful book that will endure decades from now about how America failed at helping New Orleans and the residents of the city during and after Hurricane Katrina. Therefore, the source of the lights could have been simply a by-product of this seismic activity. Unfortunately, the real epilogue of the story of the Zeitouns came three years after the book was published. Zeitoun is revered in his adopted city as a fair and hardworking businessman. Do you think Our Lady of Fatima is a hoax too? The most likely explanation is that there were simply objects on the roof itself. Despite facing some mild prejudice after 9/11, Zeitoun has built a life that is both financially and socially successful. I do not accept that there are such things as miracles. (4 minutes and 33 seconds of pure silence). While Kathy and their children flee New Orleans, Zeitoun (he is mostly referred to by his surname) stays behind and disobeys orders to evacuate, preferring to watch over the houses they own and their business in the city. In choosing this quote, Eggers asserts the system itself is prone to corruption and that abuses of the innocent can occur when power is abused. He met Kathy, an American woman who was a single mother and had converted to Islam after going through a bitter divorce. [13], The photos of the event are numerous, though inconsistent. So, which explanation is less of a stretch? Last summer, he pleaded guilty to … The father, A. Zeitoun, was introduced through his native, Syria. Our Lady of Zeitoun, also known simply as El-Zeitoun, Zeitun or rarely Our Lady of Light, was a mass Marian apparition that occurred in the Zeitoun district of Cairo, Egypt, over a period of 2–3 years beginning on April 2, 1968. [citation needed]. In Zeitoun Egypt, 1900’s, over a million people saw what appeared to be the Virgin Mary on top of a church. What do you think of the Zeitoun apparitions? In the novels, All American Boys, a Thousand Splendid Suns, and Zeitoun, the central protagonists make major decisions that set themselves in opposition to the expectations of society, family and friends. [11], Though the above analyses provide reasons for how the crowd interpreted the lights, they provide no explanations for the light phenomena themselves. I learned a great deal about Syria and the Muslim religion. These experiences change the character and it is well known the most solid way to learn something is by experiencing it. Zeitoun, a Syrian-American man who had remained in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina, helped a countless number of his neighbors. According to the police, the sighting was just a reflection of the light from the street lamps. Thursday, January 8, 2009. St. Mark's Avenue Press. ” Zeitoun, an informative novel by author Dave Eggers is a tale about how faith and “courage” can really screw things up. Zeitoun is a supposedly non-fiction account of Abdulrahman Zeitoun and his wife Kathy during Hurricane Katrina. Nuns of the Society of the Sacred Heart also witnessed the apparitions and sent a detailed report to the Vatican, resulting in the arrival of an envoy on April 28 who also saw the apparitions and sent a report to Pope Paul VI[citation needed]. The head of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, Pope of Alexandria, Kyrillos VI appointed a committee of high-ranking priests and bishops to investigate the matter, headed by Bishop Gregorios, bishop of postgraduate studies, Coptic culture and scientific research. The Egyptian government accepts it as authentic, Coptic Church does, and so does the Catholic Church. On May 5, 1968, Coptic Orthodox Pope Kyrillos VI approved the apparition. My question is what do you think this is? The Egyptian government accepts it as authentic, Coptic Church does, and so does the Catholic Church. In 2009, Dave Eggers self-published Zeitoun, a well-received nonfiction volume which told the story of a hard-working Syrian-American painter in New Orleans who emerged as a hero during Hurricane Katrina. Zeitoun was a family man and had a great desire to begin his own family. Thousands were said to have flocked to the Church after the first announced occurrences of the phenomenon. The first apparition of the Virgin Mary at Zeitoun was recorded on the evening of April 2, 1968, when a Muslim bus mechanic named Farouk Mohammed Atwa, who worked across the street from St. Mary's Coptic Church in Zeitoun, supposedly thought he saw a woman attempting suicide by jumping from the structure. A crowd gathered on the site and the police attempted to disperse it. Just the sort of event to attract terrorists, one might suppose. There are some other contradictions that come up if you believe in miracles, but let’s look at the other explanation for comparison: Someone faked the Maria appearance in Zaitoun and fooled witnesses, just like millions of tourists are fooled every year by Las Vegas magicians. In that case he should perform actual miracles, like moving Mount Everest to a different continent, healing amputees or curing AIDS. Initially, I thought Zeitoun was a book about the New Orleans hurricane, Katrina. There are things which are alleged to have happened that didn’t and there are things that happen that can’t be explained at the time. True/ False After the storm passes, Zeitoun reports that the initial damage is far worse than anything he has ever seen before To help the reader understand Zeitouns later choices. Because of this, the attempts by the police to disperse the crowd were unsuccessful. In 2009, Dave Eggers self-published Zeitoun, a well-received nonfiction volume which told the story of a hard-working Syrian-American painter in New Orleans who emerged as a hero during Hurricane Katrina. [8], On 12 May 2018, the Coptic Church celebrated the golden Jubilee of the event. According to witnesses, the lights would last for a few minutes to a few hours. So the question is: Is it more likely that somebody faked an appearing Maria in order to pursue his own interests or is it more likely that there actually is a supernatural entity proving her existence? Investigations performed by the police could find no apparent explanation. Zeitoun's older brother who was a champion ocean swimmer - died when he was 24 from a car accident in Egypt - role model for Zeitoun to be brave/ambitious. [17] A large number of priests and Christians from all over Egypt attended the celebration, Sub-celebrations have been held from May 10 to May 13. [javascript protected email address]/*\"+d+\"\"")/*]]>*/, Ask the atheists is a Redshift Media initiative.Icons from: doublejdesign.co.uk and androidicons.com. This is the first run through Zeitoun experiences what the media is depicting as the truth of New Orleans after Katrina. If you want to know how it was done, assuming it actually happened, you should ask magicians/illusionists like James Randi or Derren Brown but see also the story below. [2] According to Coptic tradition, Zeitoun is near one of the locations where the Holy family stayed during their flight into Egypt. The staff of the church had: Stefan below gives an excellent reason to believe the apparitions were an illusion. One week later on April 9 the phenomenon reoccurred, again lasting for only a few minutes. And, here is some general info about it: link. Zeitoun, Ronnie, Todd and Nasser are all innocent man who are indeed punished without having committing a crime. Père Francois Brune (2004): La Vièrge de l'Egypte. Thanks! The lights appeared irregularly for a period of about three years. at http://www.asktheatheists.com. No device was found within a radius of fifteen miles capable of projecting the image, and many photos were taken of the alleged apparition from independent sources, though often of very low quality. This page was last edited on 24 December 2020, at 22:35. The Twain quote speaks to Zeitoun's profession, work ethic, and personal drive. Indeed, Zeitoun did see tectonic activity prior to events. Fayard. Adnan. [2] However, a church custodian suggested the figure was the Virgin Mary, which greatly excited the crowd. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet, especially when the posters have a non-neutral agenda. [18][19][20], "The Apparitions Of The Blessed Holy Virgin Mary". The book’s description of his wrongful arrest for “looting,” and the injustices he faced as Louisiana society … Despite the accounts of ongoing, if irregular, visitations by the Marian apparition, Cynthia Nelson documents seeing nothing other than a few 'intermittent flashes of light'. In a nonjudgmental and factual manner, the book recounts failed expectations and lack of accountability by FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security in response to the devastation brought to the city by … With no alternative explanations and approval from religious and political leaders, the Egyptian government accepted the apparitions as true. To me it doesn’t make sense. Disclaimer: Answers published on this site do not necessarily reflect the views of anyone other than the author of the answer in question. Out of respect? 'That no testimony is sufficient to establish a miracle, unless the testimony be of such a kind, that its falsehood would be more miraculous, than the fact, which it endeavours to establish….’. Only then was it realised that they were suffering from seasickness. [2] The event itself ended after a few minutes. [3] On May 4 Kyrillos VI issued an official statement confirming the apparitions. 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[12] However, this doesn't explain the fact that the phenomenon only occurred at night, and Tectonic Strain Theory has yet to provide a mechanism for how tectonic events cause these lights in the first place. Let’s look at this like a criminal investigation (not that a crime as such took place). I, personally, witnessed something strange a few years ago. Talk about it at the atheist nexus forum. She visited the church site on several occasions including April 15, 1968, another week later near the end of April and on June 1, 1968. It is estimated that from 1968 to 1971, at least one million Egyptians (and numerous foreigners) saw a luminous female figure atop the roof of St. Mary’s (Orthodox) Coptic Church in Zeitoun… The apparitions of the Blessed Holy Virgin Mary occurred in the Zeitoun district of Cairo, Egypt, over a period of 2-3 years beginning on April 2, 1968. This would not seem to count in this particular phenomenon’s favour. After that time apparitions became more frequent, sometimes two-three times a week, for several years, ending in 1971. In the novel, Zeitoun by Dave Eggers, the main character, Abdulrahman Zeitoun, is an immigrant of Syria who stays in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and is arrested due to the suspicion of looting, but … LaFave, Peter. “Zeitoun is a more powerful indictment of America’s dystopia in the Bush era than any number of well-written polemics” (Timothy Egan, New York Times, August 13, … "[9], Sociologists Robert Bartholomew and Erich Goode offer the Zeitoun apparitions as a prominent case of mass hysteria: “It appears that the Marian observers were predisposed by religious background and social expectation to interpreting the light displays as related to the Virgin Mary.”[10], Professor Micheal P. Carrol similarly suggests that the "lights of uncertain origin" were interpreted as Mary due to the societal stresses on Egyptian society at the time, coupled with an association of the Virgin Mary with the Zeitoun area. Zeitoun’s guiltless and benevolent wanderings in the kayak are hindered by the gathering of equipped men close to his place of business. [16] Pope Tawadros II held the four Holy Mass. This time Eggers is letting the truth speak for itself. In Zeitoun Egypt, 1900’s, over a million people saw what appeared to be the Virgin Mary on top of a church. According t… The first apparition of the Virgin Mary at Zeitoun was recorded on the evening of April 2, 1968, when a Muslimbus mechanic named Farouk Mohammed Atwa, who worked across the street from St. Mary's Coptic Church in Zeitoun, supposedly thought he saw a woman attempting suicide by jumping from the structure. And, here is some general info about it: link. Several patients were whisked off to hospital for treatment. [6], Estimates of the number of observers of the event vary greatly. He is stunned, and trying to … Muslims seeing the Virgin wouldn't be unusual, as Mary is revered in Islam as well. [15] In Cynthia Nelson's report, she noted that many photos and pictures of the apparition were being sold in the marketplace, adding a financial incentive for forgery. Primary sources put 250,000 as the upper limit for a single night, though the difficulty in estimating crowd size in the dark means that number may be an overestimate. [4] Soon after, the Ministry of Tourism also issued a validation of the sightings, and reportedly began distributing pamphlets. The story of Zeitoun. [14] The sourcing for the most popular photo is unclear, and some skeptics have pointed out inconsistencies such as the light on the cross being darker than it should, and the apparition seeming translucent despite other photographs and witness testimony describing it as opaque and very bright. And we have the video to prove it. According to Carl F. Weems trauma from natural disasters and stress from natural disasters often lead to posttraumatic stress disorder. Zeitoun was on probation for attacking Kathy Zeitoun, his then-wife, in front of their children at one of their Dart Street properties in March 2011. "When Mary Returned to Egypt", "Parasociology: Marian Apparitions at El-Zeitoun and Social Psi (Part 2)", "Mass Delusions and Hysterias: Highlights from the Past Millennium", "Geophysical Variables and Behavior: LIV. Some claim the apparitions were seen by millions. As the story progressed, I came to learn it was a based on true experiences. Zeitoun on IMDb: Movies, Tv, Celebrities, and more... Oscars Best Picture Winners Best Picture Winners Golden Globes Emmys STARmeter Awards San Diego Comic-Con New York Comic-Con Sundance Film Festival Toronto Int'l Film Festival Awards Central Festival Central All Events To help ameliorate prejudices. Racism & Post 9/11 Prejudices against Muslims: Zeitoun and his family encounter racism from some people in New Orleans after 9/11. Some names have been changed.” Additionally it states that “it was written with the full participation of the Zeitoun family, and reflects their view of the events”. L'incroyable apparition de Marie à des millions d'Egyptiens. Eggers’s Zeitoun is a heroic and selfless creation, kind and gentle, and his detainment by the authorities makes for a beautiful tale of injustice. Already this statement is making a lot of claims. For fear of being pulled away, even lynched, by the faithful crowds? Zeitoun may read like a novel and feel like a novel, but it isn't. My major reference for Mariology – Marina Warner’s book Alone of all her sex: the myth and the cult of the Virgin Mary (New York: Random House, 1986) – doesn’t mention Zeitoun at all, although it deals with many other ‘vision’ stories. In the 2-3 years it was happening for hours at a time, why didn’t anyone just get a ladder and a lunchbox and stake out the roof? )(2007): Dictionnaire des "apparitions" de la Vierge Marie. Eggers relied heavily on what his subjects, Abdulrahman Zeitoun and his wife Kathy, told him while working on the book. Soon after the apparition the Ministry of Tourism certified the sightings as legitimate, and began to distribute fliers promoting Zeitoun for pilgrimage. The apparitions were also allegedly witnessed by President Gamal Abdel Nasser,[5] and captured by newspaper photographers and Egyptian television. He is known simply as "Zeitoun" to his many neighbors, friends and loyal clients. Dignity: After Hurricane Katrina, Zeitoun remarks that many of the people he encounters have lost their dignity because of the storm's affects.He, too, loses his dignity when he is unjustly imprisoned, refused his civil rights, strip searched, etc. Or he does want to prove himself. Most of the photos are blurry or of low quality, though some do seem to show the Virgin Mary regardless.

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